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gothwalk ([personal profile] gothwalk) wrote2004-01-12 10:05 am

Spam spam spam spammity spam

Sometimes, I really can't work out what spammers are after. A list I'm on was vigourously bombarded - about 50 copies got through before an admin got on the case - with a listing of reg codes for Microsoft stuff, up to and including a beta build of Longhorn. I can see why someone might send a single copy, but not 50. And there's no benefit in sight.

And there's a very well written one in this morning to Swiftpay from "Elizabeth Richson", saying that she writes for a website, has linked to us, and would we be interested in linking back to her? Apparently she found us by searching for a given search term, which is one that you'd reasonably find Swiftpay on. If it wasn't for the slightly klunky line of "My site is all about Finance - Misc too", I wouldn't even have glanced at the headers. But it turns out to be from a non-existent domain, and in something mildly mindboggling, googling for that name gives a total of two results, neither connected in any way to finance sites. So a mail asking for a link to a site which doesn't seem to exist, from an email address that can't be replied to, which was generated by a clever program tripped up only by the fact that the category the site is listed under didn't fit as a natural language noun. Why? How can anyone possibly profit by sending this?

[identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com 2004-01-12 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Were there any attachments on the email? Could have been a virus thing?

[identity profile] kehoea.livejournal.com 2004-01-12 03:24 am (UTC)(link)

Jerry suggested something diabolical when I commented that I was receiving spam that didn't function as spam; it'll break Bayesian filters. As people click the "this-is-spam" button, the spam filter will start accepting stuff with no commercial motivation as spam, breaking email even more. (Of course, if I had any sense, I wouldn't propagate this meme any more.)

Within the last week, my old TCD class exchanged seven or eight emails, and two or three of them hit my spam folder. This is _much_ higher than the normal false positive rate for me; I can't imagine how annoying it would be for someone with a well-distributed address who had to deal with non-net-heads on a regular basis :-(

talking about spam ...

[identity profile] graylion.livejournal.com 2004-01-12 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
this gave me a slight shock:

Nigerian 419

(Anonymous) 2004-01-13 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
I got a similar message from the same person/domain for me it was aimed at in car lcd panels. Thought I'd check before I sent a reply and as you say the domain doesn't exist, then did a search for the name and found this posting which confirmed my fears. Well done chaps.

Elizabeth Richson

(Anonymous) 2004-01-16 11:25 am (UTC)(link)
Welcome to the club! Got the same kind of spam from Ms. "Richson" and found this page via Google. The domain elizabethrichson.com is shown to exist, registered to someone in Ohio, but the IP address in the email header maps back to China apparently (per traceroute). And the last leg of the traceroute shows a different domain name, 'tracypage.com', so the same IP address is probably being used for different domain names. Perhaps Ms. Page will soon make an appearance in these same spams.

Busy, busy girl.

[identity profile] petit-chou.livejournal.com 2004-01-16 11:36 am (UTC)(link)
I got hit, too! (I found you through Google -- you're Elizabeth Richson's number one fan!)

I cracked up because my site (a regular personal site with a focus on DIY tutorials and recipes) was noted as being "all about Business - Industrial Supplies, too." That Elizabeth! Such a smart cookie!

I got one two

(Anonymous) 2004-01-16 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, im a webmaster from th UK and i got one of those Elizabeth Richson emails too, but as my site was a school site the email said it was related to education

Your Reference to a spam by Elizabeth Richson with no URL and no functional e-mail return address

(Anonymous) 2004-01-17 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I received a similar spam directed at my site. You are correct in assuming there can be little purpose for such a communication.

I believe an anti-spam software provider deliberately spams people with enormous amounts of garbage before conveniently offering to provide a solution. The solution will not work, of course, but the "anti-spammer" makes a profit. In fact the "anti-spammer" is the actual "spammer."

Just a thought. God Bless. Michael W. Neely, Editor - The AV Hub (http://www.avhub.net)(mwneely@dslextreme.com)

I am also puzzled

(Anonymous) 2004-01-23 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
Your final remarks, "Why? How can anyone possibly profit by sending this?" sum up my feelings exactly. I started a response to the email, explaining that my site was NOT about exclusively about "Home / Garden" but then I decided to poke a bit and see what her site was (I actually DO run a site that distributes articles and at least a couple have been home and garden themed, so 'her' email was not entirely off base). Now I'm just confused.

Most pointless spam ever.

- Tiffany
tconroy AT ccna DOT ca

(Anonymous) 2004-01-31 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
I also received the same email, which did relate to my website. I did a bit of digging and found out who it is and have reported them.

The following information may be of interest:

Neotrace information

Domain Name: ELIZABETHRICHSON.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
Referral URL: http://www.opensrs.org
Name Server: NS1.INTERCOM.COM.CN
Name Server: NS.INTERCOM.COM.CN
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 18-dec-2003
Creation Date: 18-dec-2003
Expiration Date: 18-dec-2004

Whois info for, elizabethrichson.com:
Registrant:
apple
2198 Apple dr.
Columbus, OH 43212
US

Domain name: ELIZABETHRICHSON.COM

Administrative Contact:
Johnson, Muliya billrichson@yahoo.com
2198 Apple dr.
Columbus, OH 43212
US
410-678-8768
Technical Contact:
Customer Service, EV1 Servers domains@ev1servers.net
2600 SW Freeway
Suite 500
Houston, Texas 77098
US
+1.7133337873 Fax: +1.7139429332



Registration Service Provider:
Everyones Internet, domains@ev1servers.net
http://www.ev1servers.net



Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 18-Dec-2003.
Record expires on 18-Dec-2004.
Record created on 18-Dec-2003.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS.INTERCOM.COM.CN
NS1.INTERCOM.COM.CN

I received the same

(Anonymous) 2004-02-02 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, count me as one of the baffled recipients of the email from Elizabeth Richson.

Amazingly the email was correct in verifying my site has having to do with Java Programming - also Elizabeth Richson also mention that she would like to exchange links with me as her site is about "computers - software" too.

What's the deal with this?

And there were no links on the email - so who ever who sent the email would not know if I opened the email.

And since the email return path was wrong - elizabeth richson would not recieved bounce emails.

Very puzzling

Interesting...

[identity profile] palp.livejournal.com 2004-02-09 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I got hit by this as well, this afternoon. The email stated that my site was ranked #32 in Google for 'bad breath picture', which it certainly is not. It's also not in the Health - Beauty category as claimed. The interesting thing, however, is that the email was sent primarily to our donations email address, and was cc'd to me and the other admin on the site. Either these addresses are being harvested by a person, or they have a very clever bot gathering them, because it seems it would otherwise be difficult for them to gather just those three addresses. And, as to the goal of this - I am also at a loss to explain it.

Elizabeth Richson

(Anonymous) 2004-02-18 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi I received an email and she wanted me to post this link on my site
Born (http://www.discountshoeguide.com/Born.html)
Has anyone gotten this?

[identity profile] trinityc.livejournal.com 2004-02-20 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Very strange. I had one to my work address this morning, claiming that 'my site' www.archives.org.uk came up 12th on Google for "sheep skin cleaning", and that her site deals with "Auto - Parts / Accessories" too. I was just preparing a gentle email explaining that it's not my site, my name's just on there because I'm one of the training officers for the Society of Archivists, and we probably come up on that search because some of the documents we deal with are written on parchment which is treated sheepskin...then I thought I'd check her out, discovered several links on Google including this one, and here I am!

Is this the most irrelevant example of this email?! Car accessories...archives...hmmmm! It's common for people not to know what we do, but the spambots have clearly been utterly baffled by this one! I've been falling about laughing all morning...

Heh.. looks like you're the best resource for ms Richson

(Anonymous) 2004-02-22 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyway, I got this one as well and it was interesting seeing everyones responses to this. From what I gather, this is what the spammer does:
1. EMails you with an effective social engineering marketing hook. There's no link to her site, and elizabethrichson.com doesn't allow web traffic (when I tried it).. So one would think it was a legit email by a user that just forgot to tell where she linked you at.
2. Richson emails you again later on, wondering why you didn't link her site (automated bot again). This time, however, she gives you a site to link back to...

I see this as doing two things. If there is a unique identifier in the link in the second email, then visiting that link will bump up the link ratio of that person. So score one for them. If you happen to link the site from your site, then google sees it as an "important link" and ups that site's PageRank. Another score for the spammer. If you link the site using a unique identifier, then anyone clicking on the link from your site will up the click ratio of the spammer again.. score 3.

This is something I've not encountered before, but sounds like a damned good marketing social engineering scheme.. But hey, now you know what's up (maybe, I could be entirely wrong since I've only gotten the initial email).

Tech
www.livingearthherbs.com

(Anonymous) 2004-03-09 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I've had the same emails and so it far it seems legit as Elizabeth Richson has added links on real sites: see email train below.
Are you guys paranoid or am I naiive??? We'll have to wait and see.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Richson" <elizabeth@elizabethrichson.com>
To: <webmaster@medicalcentre.net.au>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: Re: medicalcentre.net.au ranked # 13 in Google for diabetes gestational ketones


> Hey -- it's Elizabeth. Thanks for the reply.
>
> Like I said before, I'm already linked to you. You can link to me here with this code: Ketones (http://www.lowcarbfoodauthority.com/ketones.html)
>
> I added you into this directory of hand reviewed sites called High Index. I submit things to them as an editor, and got you up as a featured listing in the following category: http://www.highindex.com/Health/Conditions_and_Diseases/Endocrine_Disorders/Pancreas/Diabetes/Nutrition/
>
> You can click on that link if you want to check it out.
>
> Thought you might like that. Anyway, I'll leave you up there for a few days until i hear from you. If i don't hear back, I will have to take the link down. Thanks again. I look forward to swapping links with you soon!
>
>
> Elizabeth
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: webmaster@medicalcentre.net.au
> Sent: 9 Mar 2004 21:57:51 GMT
> To: elizabeth@elizabethrichson.com
> Subject: Re: medicalcentre.net.au ranked # 13 in Google for diabetes gestational ketones
>
> You haven't mentioned your site name or URL
>
> Paul O'Brien
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elizabeth Richson" <elizabeth@elizabethrichson.com>
> To: <webmaster@medical-centre.com.au>
> Cc: <webmaster@medicalcentre.net.au>; <info@medicalcentre.net.au>
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 6:17 AM
> Subject: medicalcentre.net.au ranked # 13 in Google for diabetes gestational
> ketones
>
>
> > I'm a web master, and I was just searching Google for diabetes gestational
> ketones. I found your domain, medicalcentre.net.au ranked 13, which is
> pretty cool.
> >
> > My site is all about Health - Weight Loss, too . Maybe we should link up?
> I wouldn't be stealing any of your sales, because all I do is write
> informational articles...not selling anything on my site at all. And most of
> my visitors write back to say that they love the fact that I only write
> good, quality info. As a matter of fact, I've got a pretty loyal following
> of people that come back over and over again (they use the site as a
> reference), so if you link to me, you should get some pretty good traffic
> from it -- which is always nice.
> >
> > Anyway, let me know if you'd like to swap links. I've already linked to
> you, and will keep it up there for a few days until I hear back. Hope to
> hear from you soon!
> >
> > Elizabeth Richson
> > RAC IM: 769482.
> >
>