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([personal profile] gothwalk Feb. 5th, 2003 09:46 am)
The new house is coming along nicely. There's still a pile of stuff to move in, but it's non-essential stuff - the rest of the books and CDs, some more shelving, kitchen stuff and the rest of the clothes. I'm getting the hang of lighting fires again. The wireless network is starting to work (that's down to [livejournal.com profile] olethros, though). The kitchen floor is cold in the morning, particularly on bare feet, but I'm learning to deal with that. And then there's this television thing.

As many of ye know, I was brought up without a television, for the most part, and [livejournal.com profile] inannajones and I have spent the last four years or more without one. So it's this exotic thing for me, and I sometimes get hypnotised by the moving images.

I sat down on Sunday evening, I think, to watch an episode of Enterprise on Sky One. It was the one where T'Pol is recounting the real first contact thing, and while it was quite dreadful (there's a reason the fifties are in the past - leave them there!), it was dealable with. But just as I'd settled down to watch it, there's this break for ads. And it went on, and on, and on, and all the ads were inane, and evidently aimed at people with not much more than animal consciousness and a credit card. Eventually, the program came back on, and just as I was picking up the thread of the story again, boom, more ads.

I'm told Sky is really bad for ads. But if I want to watch something, I want to watch that and not ads. We're paying a subscription to the cable company for this; I can only assume that some of that money goes to Sky, so presumably they don't need the ad time to be heading for equal to the program time.

I've since seen two more episodes of Enterprise (still not impressed) and a few news broadcasts. But so far I'm not enamoured. I don't see why people like this medium; the signal to noise ratio is much worse than many mailing lists.

From: [identity profile] natural20.livejournal.com


Yup, Sky One will, on average, have 3 add breaks of roughly 5 minutes each during a 1 hour slot. The actual programme will run for about 40 - 42 minutes, depending on the episode. In the states they'll generally have 5 ad breaks, they're just a bit shorter.

This is, quite frankly, evil. It's also why these days I tend to only watch series' on BBC (ah, sweet lack of ads, Red Cap is one hour long and it's all good) or things where I'm in the company of others so we can mute during the ads and chat about stuff.

There is a hell of a lot of "noise" on TV, but there is some quite terribly good "signal" in there as well. The trick is to buy the Irish Times on a Saturday and use the helpful TV Guide to avoid all the noise. VCRs are also useful for obvious reasons.

Television is a wonderful medium, but in moderation, and you have to pick your spots, like any other medium really. Funny that. :)

From: [identity profile] cheerfulcynic.livejournal.com

On TV


TV - we're grownups. We're supposed to be able to filter:)

Besides, being exposed to things you wouldn't necessarily go out of your way to encounter is educational. Unless it is TV3 in the afternoons, coz that's never good:) But otherwise, Channel4 documentaries, Discovery Channel history nights, Scrapheap Challenge, Scrubs, Nigella's cookery programmes are good TV fodder:)


From: [identity profile] amberwitch.livejournal.com


...I was brought up without a television....
So it's this exotic thing for me, and I sometimes get hypnotised by the moving images.


Happens to me whenever I am in the room with a turned on TV. I put it down to lack of resistence build-up in the tender years.
Never had a TV in the home growing up, and by now I certainly don't want it.
Shallow perhaps, but it would be a big timesink for me.
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From: [identity profile] gothwalk.livejournal.com


I think I'll have to get a VCR and make friends with it. They can't be told to skip ads, can they? I know you can fast-forward, but it'd be nicer not to have them at all. Or is that Tivo I'm thinking of?

From: [identity profile] natural20.livejournal.com


I think there are VCRs that can avoid ads, but not in general circulation, you're probably thinking of TIVO, but I wouldn't guarantee it, none involved in Television is in a hurry to piss off those who pay the bills. At least with Tivo (and Sky+, but you can't get that here yet) the fast forward speeds are much, much better than VCRs.

From: [identity profile] hkim.livejournal.com


The advantage of Sky over BBC is that they don't edit out things they deem inappropriate. For example, the BBC somehow thought Buffy was a kids show and put it on at like 6 in the evening, meaning they edited out a load of stuff. And left some it it still edited out in the late night repeat. The ads on Sky only really annoy me in that they put them in the wrong places. Most American shows are written and edited with the ad breaks in mind, and it's irritating the way Sky puts them in willy nilly. I'll back up Ann on Scrapheap Challenge and Scrubs, and add The Office, Freaks and Geeks (you'll probably need a video - they're repeating it at 3am on N2), Teachers, and 24 (new series starting? started?) and good, envelope-pushing telly.

As for signal to noise, for the most part I have mastered that button on the remote the lets me flick between two channels, and also have an eerie internal timer that lasts three minutes, so I usually half-watch another show as well. If it really bothers you, you can always do something else at the same time. My mother thinks watching telly is a total waste of time, so always does ironing simultaneously. I'll sew, or in my prime Buffy watching years I had a nail painting ritual which worked out perfectly because I'd do a coat in each ad break. :)

God, that was long.


From: [identity profile] cheerfulcynic.livejournal.com

Damn


How could I have forgotten Teachers? That is one of the most evilly witty shows I've ever seen.

From: [identity profile] malinaldarose.livejournal.com


Actually, the VCR I bought two years ago does automatically mark ads and skip them during playback. It's a bit startling at first when you're used to fast-forwarding through the ads. It's a Magnavox, I think, whether that helps or not, I dunno.

From: [identity profile] cissa.livejournal.com


Tivo doesn't skip ads automatically, nor does it have the neat 30-second skip that I'm told one of its rivals has. But it does allow one to fast-forward over commercials much more easily and quickly than VCR, among its many wonderful qualities. We NEVER watch ads anymore. We'll intentionally wait to watch something if it's just started, so we can skip the ads.

From: (Anonymous)


Actually, because of something called an "opt-out" (doesn't make sense, should be an opt-in) the ads on Sky in Ireland are now all local ads (or at least they were when I left) and not the break-in type of things that Cablelink used to use but could never synchronise with the Sky broadcast.

Lor
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