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([personal profile] gothwalk Sep. 29th, 2004 12:42 pm)
Better and more qualified folk than I have talked about capitalism. But I've been reading a lot of good fantasy lately, with working economies in, and reading some about medieval and early modern economies, and I've been down home and seen again the economy that actually runs there, among family and old-fashioned people.

What I want to talk about - and this is more thinking out loud than any kind of finished writing, comments and contradictions appreciated - is Quality and Quantity, two places where I feel capitalism falls down, albeit in opposite directions.

First, Quality. There isn't enough of it, and it's down to the bottom line. If your aim is to make money - and that's the aim that capitalism fosters - then you will not succeed by producing quality products. You may get there by providing a quality service, but I doubt that; look at budget airlines for a strong counterexample.

My father is a craftsman. He's a Master Craftsman, in a sense that few enough people reading this will understand, but let me just say that he's really really really good at what he does. I'm good at what I do, and by contrast with my father, I'm a hack. He produces quality products. In school, I was once asked "Your father manufactures furniture, doesn't he?", and even then, I could say, no, he makes furniture.

By the reasoning of capitalism as it's taught to us - hard work makes you rich, good work makes you richer - my father should be very very rich. He's not. He's not, because he cares much more about his work than he does about the money, much more about the quality than the number at the end.

There's Quality there, and success a-plenty, but there's not much money. By all standards of capitalism, my father is a failure. By any other standard - respect, reputation, skill, experience - he is a very definite success. There's something wrong with a system that says he's a failure.

Second, Quantity. Rich people become richer, under capitalism, such that it's very hard not to become richer once you're rich. There are people in this world who have, in their own personal fortunes, more than a billion euros. Bill Gates has approximately $48 billion dollars. To bring that into focus, if he were to divide his personal fortune among the population of Ireland, everyone would get $12,000. He can't use all that money. He can't ever use all that money. But because he has it, more keeps accumulating. That, too makes no sense - it's a waste, under any sane way of thinking.

But under capitalism, Gates is a winner, and not just A Winner, he's THE winner.

I think if you check, you'll find my father does better work, though.
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From: [identity profile] gothwalk.livejournal.com


People want to buy my father's work. Not just because of quality, but because in the process of ignoring the bottom line in order to produce quality work, he charges materials plus enough to keep him and the workshop going. Which often works out to between 30 and 70 percent of the next lowest quote, or thereabouts. People have been trying to get him to charge more for years.

The guy charging $7000 for a chair isn't really doing quality work as quality work, he's using quality as a tool to get at the bottom line.

the marketplace decides what's good work, not your father

... and that's the problem, pretty much. The marketplace is an idiot, concerned with a number, not the product.


From: [identity profile] theferrett.livejournal.com


So the problem is not with capitalism, but with your father, who doesn't want to earn money. That's a noble goal, but the message of capitalism is not simply "work hard," but "earn money." Your father is choosing not to be rich, which is not an indictment of the system as a whole but rather your dad's quirk. He could be a lot richer by what you say. (Not Bill Gates rich, though.)

I don't think the marketplace is an idiot; I think that it's overly-concerned with consistency, and quite often values cheapness over other items, but I understand that from a paycheck perspective.

From: [identity profile] awakedreamer.livejournal.com


Again you're ignoring one thing that sometimes makes consumers, act stupidly. Publicity & marketing. Sometimes the fact one thing is better than other doesn't mean anything in capitalism, and I think that's a great flaw in the system...

I mean, how much money would have Drew's father earned if he had spent a million euros in ads?

From: [identity profile] graylion.livejournal.com


yep, but it's humans. and customers are idiots. always were, always will be. but it's the only way. Or suggest a different one?
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