I've been mystified for most of my life by the way in which people object to spoilers. And over the last couple of days, I've seen some fine examples of giving out, complaining, and outright temper tantrums over Serenity spoilers. It's becoming clear to me that other people don't watch films - or plays, series, novels, or anything else like that - in the same way I do. And, to be perfectly honest, I'm starting to think they're missing out.

I take on anything that has a narrative in a non-linear - or at least multi-dimensional - way. I sit there, and I suspend disbelief at the same time as I take note of everything. The order that elements arrive in my mind is not as important as the gestalt - and there's definitely a gestalt. I'll flip forward in a novel, then go back a few pages and read a segment again. I'll read the entire script of a movie - and two fan-written alternates - before I see it. I'll listen to a recording of a symphony before I go to hear it played live. I'll happily read up on the history of a set-designer before I see a play (ok, haven't done that last in years, but the principle's there).

There's the argument that the event should be arrived at without prejudice, so that you see it all as the author intended it. Which I have to label nonsense, because there is no work in existence that is perceived as the author intended. You can't do it. You enter any work with your own pre-conceived ideas, stereotypes, archetypes, and concepts. The tragic figure may be amusing to you. The comic relief may be tragic in your mind. The awe-inducing scene at the beginning may bore you. You may hate the theme music, and think it anachronistic, even as the author thinks it sets the scene perfectly.

And I have to ask, if the linear arrival of the elements in your mind is so important, what about preludes, cut-scenes, flashbacks, multiple points of view? There are plenty of fantastic books and films out there that tell you the ending in the first scene. The obsession with remaining spoiler-free, as far as I can see, does nothing but inhibit the enjoyment of the event itself, and give you all sorts of hassle in the process.

About the only place where I can see the argument for remaining spoiler free is the first-person experience - the videogame, the RPG, the LARP, where the very point is that you don't know what's happening next. In any other case, you reduce your experience of the event by not preparing for it.

Although as it happens, I don't yet know the spoilers for Serenity. I'm not going to go looking for them, because I've done my speculating and am now content to wait, but if someone tells me, I won't be in the least worried - and I'll be reading transcripts of Firefly and Buffy, and interviews with Joss and the crew between now and then.
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From: [identity profile] hobbitblue.livejournal.com


I don't mind knowing some of the details, but i don't want to know how it ends, or what the major climactic moment entails. I don't know how much of a Star Wars fan you are but, surely the "Luke you are my father" moment would be less effective to the first-time audience if everybody already knew it? Don't you enjoy surprises and not knowing how a film will unfold? Its fun the *second time* (if a film is worth a re-watching) to follow how the various elements lead up to the dramatic conclusion, I really enjoyed doing that with Sixth Sense, but if I'd gone in knowing all about it I'd not have got that tingle up and down my spine when the penny dropped for the whole audience and everything suddenly shifted and re-cast itself to fit in with the new information...
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe


Certainly, when I sat down to watch Star Wars for the first time ever, someone said "So, which episode is it where she turns out to be his sister?" and a big, shocking moment was spoiled for me.

Little revelations are a large part of what's fun when watching or reading something for the first time.
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe


I was 20, and the kind of person you'd known for 6 years, and besides, I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS YOU. Since we're yelling and all.
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From: [personal profile] ailbhe


I always got Star Wars and Star Trek mixed up though, so although I knew someone was the good guy's father, I was never sure which series it was in...

From: [identity profile] rowancat.livejournal.com


Oh, films and books with major surprises and revelations are an exception certainly.
For those, i would definitely *not* want spoilers.
I do the "beware:spoilers" thing for common courtesy :)
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